TSS Paladin Spells

[Gordulek]

[Brohg]

[Gordulek]

The shammy list here looks accurate:

[Hulkling]

[varutia]

No upgrade to cure line of spell as well, I was looking forward to that too. No symbol as well as other noticed, this don't seem to be a particularly well planned spell line up for us.

[Bruennor]

[Sophi]

I can see Hand of Disruption being useful for a pulling tool since it has some hate attached to it. It'd also be good to cast in between the 2.25 second recast timer that every spell has.

I'm not holding my breath about the upgrade to Celestial Stun though - given the track record in the previous two expansions, I would be surprised if there was actually anything left that's actually stunnable for it to be useful.



And I have to agree.. some extremely odd choices in spells there. It seems that they were rushed up until the last minute, because I can't fathom why we were given group heroism without a single target version. Seems the symbol upgrade was nixed as well...

Oh, and just in case anyone is curious, you can buy the spells from Inquisitor Harona in Sunderock Springs. There's a banker in that camp along with some friendly NPCs, and the banker being there is a good thing because you can expect to drop 13-14k if you're buying all of your spells. To get to Sunderock, take the PoK book to Blightfire Moors (between the building with the PoP flag seer and the guildmasters), head north to Goru`Kar Mesa, then north east to Sunderock Springs.

[StPauli]

[ZsaZsa Vavoom]

[Hulkling]

[ZsaZsa Vavoom]

[Luthair]

[Ashramm Damodred]

[Silmare]

[Nodden]

[Jimmeedeen]

[StPauli]

[Silmare]

[iron299wind]

[Silmare]

[Khael]

[emandes]

[Brokkson]

[Ashramm Damodred]

[Silmare]

[Stephen51]

[iron299wind]

Yea Endeavor is just not that useful to us, and with all the extra buffs you can carry around I just don't have room for an hp/ac buff, symbol, and ac buff. I primarily use the single target affirmation buff when duoing, but symbol is cast alot.

[Hulkling]

[Khael]

Re: Challenge recourse - it's just like Cleric's Vie-line.

Re: the two "lights" vs the "touch" upgrades; the only time I ever used the touch line before was when I was in some way limited to staying 100+ range from my target. Suffice to say, I can't remember the last time I kept it up either. I'd understand if others used it though - personally, I haven't bought nor will I buy the upgrade.

Ever since I got Light of Order I've always kept two fast heals up - Piety and Order. In cases where more consistent healing was needed, you could easily cycle between them, even while tanking. In cases where a fast heal was needed, and you'd used one of your fast heals, there was always the second one to save the day.

With Gleaming / Burst the only big change is that one is huge while the other is relatively small (yet still bigger than order/piety). I'll still keep both up, and I'll limit my use of Burst to times when people have more than 8k lost hp (mostly on tanks or if a caster is very, very low). If you stick yours, you'll regret it imo - it's not a spell to use for patching just a little bit when CH is 2 secs late.

[Wyvernwill]

[Merkraith]

[iron299wind]

[Lonedor]

[Gordulek]

[Hurrin Stormbeard]

Here's my 2 cent's worth !:

1) Challenge of the Hero is AWESOME!! I use it often and am easily able to keep aggro no matter who is in group. I have even been able to steal aggro from a guild warrior in Frostcrypt with this spell and a single 71 stun and hold it - with nothing else.

2) I'm confused as to why everyone is so upset about US not getting an upgrade to symbol vs Hand of Endeavor. Personally, I NEVER use symbol/druid buff combo since druid buff line and our own hp/ac/regen/mana regen self buff line (we got a new one this go round btw) do NOT stack and I have found that I get more hp/ac from even my own hp/ac buff and self buff than the combo (not to mention the inante regen that goes with it). Granted, Endeavor is a VERY slow cast and eats up a HUGE amount of mana but, thats why we buff BEFORE engaging. With the new "oob" rules, mana intensive buffs are O.B.E. (oops overcome by events) now anyway and at "this" level, everyone should know to "junk up" before getting real buffs anyway right? Besides, Endeavor is actually a pretty good ac/hp buff - it may be equal to or even better than clerics' conviction (I had endeavor on me and had a cleric cast their upgrade - tenacity - and it only gave me about 400 more hps).

3) On the other hand, SoE kind of screwed the pooch by giving us a self-only AND any target corrpution cure spell. That seems like a waste of spell/time to me - who in their right mind is going to need both? Either you're grouped with a class that can cure it already (cleric, druid, shaman - I think), OR you're not xp'ing in a zone where mobs are hitting you with it anyway (so far, I've only seen it in Direwind, Frostcrypt, and errr the zone that Frostcrypt is IN - can't remember the name !lol). Seems to me, we would have been better served with a more usefull spell like a corruption RESIST for starters, or an undead nuke (ALL undead), symbol (for those who seem to like to cast it), better root/snare, upgraded weapon proc, etc.

4) I haven't bought the new aa stun yet - I bought the LAST one and was surprised AND disappointed to find out that it overwrote the first one, was resisted most of the time, didn't interrupt much, etc. So think I'll wait a while till someone else tries it first! lol

5) Kudos on the new slay undead aa's tho!! I've gotten a double 20k slay with only 2 ranks (need more AA's! lol) in Frostcrypt - was hunting there with a full group with another paladin with all 3 ranks and he had a double 30k slay - and both of our slays were with 1hs weapons (Blade of Forgotten Faith)!!!

All in all, we did NOT get much in the way of spells or even in the way of aa's - however, just the addition of 5 levels AND the expansion of the skill and base stats made the expansion worth it - not to mention the new content. I think SoE did a pretty good job, so far anyway, on the content side of things; mobs, quests, zones, etc. Now, if they could just keep the Luclin server up for 1 week straight...

[Luthair]

[Sodonia]

[Hurrin Stormbeard]

[Odrade]

[Ughbash]