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The Spirit Realm • View topic - Offensive?

Offensive?

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Offensive?

Postby knytul » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:11 pm

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts ... 2&#1994997

And please, Contribute Beneficially to our class, not Detrimentally. We dont want more episodes like we ALWAYS get.....

Step 1: Someone asks for info
Step 2: Someone screams "Paladins shouldnt have any dps"
Step 3: 3 or less Paladins Argue with Person in step 2
Step 4: Other Classes overpower the 4 people in Steps 1-3
Step 5: Thread dies

And also, dont just say, "well we need this, and we should have that..." Bring some realistic numbers to the thread. Make it like if we truly wanted the disc, that is EXACTLY how the dev's should write it...
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Re: Offensive?

Postby frocus » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:13 am

No cleave, no HF = 6.28%
Cleave III only = 8.89%
Holyforge only = 10.64%
HF + Cleave III = 13.05%

Cleave 3 in that scenario increases his crit rate by 2.59% Holy forge adds 4.36% and combine adds 6.77% Adding them individually 4.36 and 2.59 add to 6.95% This is really close to what is added under both, within the realm of the RNG. However neither seems to increase crits by as much as advertised. (All numbers above were used by subtracting baseline total from adjusted total). Total percentage increase for cleave only was 41.2% holy forge only 69.4% both at same time 107.8% or added together from the 2 individuals since its close enough to be in RNG effects adds 110.7% to crit rate.
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Re: Offensive?

Postby Hulkling » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:24 pm

power of the keepers is in there too, so I'm thinking thats whats throwing off the numbers a bit? Another possiblity is that Fury of the Ages didn't stack with the Slays converted from crits way back when, so perhaps it doesn't(didn't) stack with Holy Forge either. If we used just Combat Fury 3 as the base %, then maybe the #s would come out closer to whats advertised. Dunno for sure, just thinking out loud :)
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