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7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Hulkling » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:11 pm

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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Hulkling » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:30 pm

wow holy shit! nice upgrade to Devout Cleansing :D

Original rank II was: Increase Hitpoints v2 by 1176 per tick

new test rank II is: Increase Hitpoints v2 by 1663 per tick

Thats over a 40% increase. Totally didn't expect that...might have to start using this again. Final thing I'd like to see happen is either A) Heal Amount working for HoTs (with a 30 second recast we'd get a HUGE bonus from heal amount) -or- B) cast time reduced to 12 seconds.
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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby riou » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:04 pm

tell him to dump the spell gem lockout on burst hulk instead of making useless hots still useless :P
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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Turayalon » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 pm

The burst heal has been something ive brought up before and still believe it should only be blocking out the burst heal instead of every spell. If we could get no lockouts on any other spells other then burst when cast that would be pretty huge. IMO the game is very based around instant heals vs HoTs these days in the raid game anyway so the fix on devout cleansing is pretty meh.
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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Kumudil » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:18 am

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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Vaindolf » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:38 am

Still 1600 heals every 6 seconds is nothing in todays game. 16000 damage healed over a minute is a lol, thats what a raid mob do in a singel hit, or group mob in 2-3hits. So no, i wouldnt sack a spell slot for this one still. Cant understand why they suddenly put in so much work on an outdated/useless spell.
But the splash aggro fix was $$$$$
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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby riou » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:10 am

At quite a bit more expensive mana and only being able to use it on 1 person vs your like 4-6? :P


I still wont be using this HoT, ever. It is a waste of mana, heh. It comes from HoT's being ineffective unless you're slumming in low content where you can let your HP fall enough to take full advantage of it and even then you could twinheal and fire 2x 20-25k crits, at a similar mana cost, 1700 x 6 ticks is useless.

In any modern content they are really ineffective at healing, the heal either never heals due to full health, or it only partially heals some minor leftover from the direct heal. With mobs attacking pretty fast and hard, and the need to constantly spam heal it is a lot easier for HoT's to heal for nothing or very little, then it used to be, since the healing time to hit takes too long for modern content.

With HoT's on me tanking and with LoH HoT in raids, I would bet that easily atleast 2/3-3/4 of HoT ticks never heal, for you that may be no problem since you can just Canni your mana back and it's no real loss, since Paladins have no option like this, this makes the waste of mana part pretty big and destroys the value of the spell, if the spell was like 300 mana or heal bumped up to like 6k / tick, maybe it would get some use.

Anyway that's enough rambling. If you want a bigger HoT you could ask for one based on that boost probably. I personally will still never be using this spell ever, nor will I be using the House of Thule version.
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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Huurgh » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:35 am



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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Normy » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:14 am

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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Peaky » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:28 am

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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby Kumudil » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:37 am

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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

Postby boukk » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:13 pm

They just need to down the mana on the hot by like a lot, make them become what they used to be, very mana efficient heals.
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Re: 7/7/10 Changes on Test server (Splash and Devout Cleansing)

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