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HoT Spell list in Test File so far

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HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby riou » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:37 am

Note for Cures, I'll do it short form to keep it not as long, C Curse, CO Corruption, P Poison, D Disease, RD Remove Detrimental

And one last thing these are pre-Beta spells they can and probably will change some before launch, hopefully they help you make arguments for beta to get stronger/change/etc.

Lets begin:
Mark of the Pure - Level 86
This is the 10 hit limit RDS thingy upgrade
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -61
Cast Time - 0.5 seconds
Recast - 12 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Max Hits - 10
Mark of the Pure - 91 ds, mana cost: 118
Mark of the Pure Rk. II - 103 ds, mana cost: 134
Mark of the Pure Rk. III - 111 ds, mana cost: 143


Cleanse - Level 86
This is an upgrade to our self only corruption cure
Cast Time - 2.5 seconds
Recast - 3 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Group Cure(TGB-able): Range - 100
Cleanse - 20 CO counters, mana cost: 472
Cleanse Rk. II - 30 CO counters, mana cost: 502
Cleanse Rk. III - 40 CO counters, mana cost: 525


Earnest Purity - Level 86
Purity line upgrade, Disease, Poison, Curse counters is the format
Range - 100
Cast Time - 1.75 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Earnest Purity - 37 D, 37 P, 19 C, counters, mana cost: 257
Earnest Purity Rk. II - 43 D, 43 P, 22 C, counters, mana cost: 257
Earnest Purity Rk. III - 46 D, 46 P, 23 C, counters, mana cost: 257


Earnest Touch - Level 86
Devout Touch upgrade line
Range - 200
Cast Time - 3.75 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Earnest Touch - 3589 heal, mana cost: 973
Earnest Touch Rk. II - 3951 heal, mana cost: 1072
Earnest Touch Rk. III - 4192 heal, mana cost: 1137


Earnest Force - Level 86
Upgrade to Devout Force line
Stun 4 seconds up to level 90
Timer ID - 4
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -50
Cast Time - 1 second
Recast - 12 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Earnest Force - 3473 Hate Override, mana cost: 88
Earnest Force Rk. II - 3959 Hate Override, mana cost: 88
Earnest Force Rk. III - 4219 Hate Override, mana cost: 88


Elegy - Level 86
Upgrade to Undead nuke line, Trigger is same 10% damage boost as older undead nukes with higher -ac proc value, Trigger has a 20% chance to fire
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -55 (-1000 on trigger)
Cast Time - 0.5 seconds
Recast - 18 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Elegy - 2490 DD, mana cost: 507
Elegy Trigger - -141 ac
Elegy Rk. II - 2828 DD, mana cost: 554
Elegy Trigger II - -161 ac
Elegy Rk. III - 3054 DD, mana cost: 585
Elegy Trigger III - -171 ac


Confrontation for Honor - Level 87
Upgrade to charge for honor, the recourse is 10% up to that # value absorb
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -50
Cast Time - 1.25 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Confrontation for Honor - 2350 Hate Override + 2350 Aggro/tick, mana cost: 125
Confrontation for Honor Recourse - 10% absorb up to 4290 dmg
Confrontation for Honor Rk. II - 2681 Hate Override + 2681 Aggro/tick, mana cost: 125
Confrontation for Honor Recourse II - 10% absorb up to 5070 dmg
Confrontation for Honor Rk. III - 2857 Hate Override + 2857 Aggro/tick, mana cost: 125
Confrontation for Honor Recourse III - 10% absorb up to 5460 dmg


Crush of Marr - Level 87
This is upgrade to crush of crying seas
Timer ID - 5
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -0
Cast Time - 0.5 seconds
Recast - 12 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Crush of Marr - 436 DD, 3583 Hate Override, mana cost: 146
Crush of Marr Rk. II - 496 DD, 4086 Hate Override, mana cost: 160
Crush of Marr Rk. III - 536 DD, 4354 Hate Override, mana cost: 168


Joyous Light - Level 87
Upgrade to fast heal Light line
Timer ID - 9
Range - 100
Cast Time - 1 second
Recast - 5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Joyous Light - 2286 heal, mana cost: 715
Joyous Light Rk. II - 2480 heal, mana cost: 776
Joyous Light Rk. III - 2610 heal, mana cost: 817


Lesson of Repentance - Level 87
Upgrade to knockback stun
Stun 10 seconds up to level 90
Timer ID - 6
Pushback - 5
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -33
Cast Time - 2 seconds
Recast - 24 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Lesson of Repentance - 436 DD, 3038 Hate Override, mana cost: 140
Lesson of Repentance Rk. II - 496 DD, 3465 Hate Override, mana cost: 153
Lesson of Repentance Rk. III - 536 DD, 3692 Hate Override, mana cost: 161


Symbol of Jyleel - Level 87
Upgrade to Symbol
Range - 100
Cast Time - 5 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Symbol of Jyleel - 2034 hp, mana cost: 817
Symbol of Jyleel Rk. II - 2404 hp, mana cost: 932
Symbol of Jyleel Rk. III - 2796 hp, mana cost: 992


Defy - Level 88
These appear to just be Upgraded Withstand, Defy Strike is the buff name.
Timer ID - 14
Duration - 1 tick (6 seconds)
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 15 seconds
Max Hits - 2
Defy - end cost: 342
Defy Strike - 90% absorb up to 4125 dmg
Defy Rk. II - end cost: 390
Defy Strike II - 90% absorb up to 4875 dmg
Defy Rk. III - end cost: 416
Defy Strike III - 90% absorb up to 5250 dmg


Armor of Implacable Faith - Level 88
Upgrade to armor self buff
Cast Time - 4.5 second
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Armor of Implacable Faith - 73 ac, 898 hp, 9 mana/tick, mana cost: 817
Armor of Implacable Faith Rk. II - 83 ac, 1061 hp, 12 mana/tick, mana cost: 932
Armor of Implacable Faith Rk. III - 89ac, 1143 hp, 13 mana/tick, mana cost: 992


Exalted Mantle - Level 88
Upgrade to our vie defense Disc, values are 25% up to X value
Timer ID - 4
Duration - 10 ticks (1 minute)
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 15 minutes
Exalted Mantle - 25% absorb up to 521802 dmg, end cost: 5738 + 30 upkeep (per second)
Exalted Mantle Heal - 6084 heal on Vie fade
Exalted Mantle Rk. II - 25% absorb up to 616674 dmg, end cost: 6675 + 32 upkeep (per second)
Exalted Mantle Heal II - 6601 heal on Vie fade
Exalted Mantle Rk. III - 25% absorb up to 664110 dmg, end cost: 7060 + 35 upkeep (per second)
Exalted Mantle Heal III - 7397 heal on Vie fade


Burst of Daybreak - Level 88
Upgraded burst
Range - 100
Cast Time - 0.25 seconds
Recast - 12 seconds
Fizzle Time - 3 seconds
Burst of Daybreak - 4938 heal, mana cost: 1563
Burst of Daybreak Rk. II - 5358 heal, mana cost: 1696
Burst of Daybreak Rk. III - 5638 heal, mana cost: 1774


Earnest Cleansing - Level 88
Upgrade to HoT
Timer ID - 3
Range - 100
Duration - 4 ticks (24 seconds)
Cast Time - 1 second
Recast - 30 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Earnest Cleansing - 1993 heal / tick, mana cost: 1306
Earnest Cleansing Rk. II - 2162 heal / tick, mana cost: 1417
Earnest Cleansing Rk. III - 2274 heal / tick, mana cost: 1490


Splash of Purification - Level 88
Splash upgrade
Timer ID - 2
Range - 100
AE Range - 50
Cast Time - 1 second
Recast - 18 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Splash of Purification - 1422 heal, 18 P, 18 P, 18 D, 18 D, 14 C, 14 C, 9 CO, 9 CO, 9 RD, 9 RD, mana cost: 1771
Splash of Purification Rk. II - 1543 heal, 21 P, 21 P, 21 D, 21 D, 16 C, 16 C, 10 CO, 10 CO, 10 RD, 10 RD, mana cost: 1850
Splash of Purification Rk. III - 1625 heal, 24 P, 24 P, 24 D, 24 D, 18 C, 18 C, 11 CO, 11 CO, 11 RD, 11 RD, mana cost: 1902


Stubborn Stance - Level 89
Upgrade to Steely Stance
Duration - 25 ticks (2 minutes 30 seconds)
Cast Time - 3 seconds
Recast - 2 minutes 30 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Stubborn Stance - 5720 hp, mana cost: 471
Stubborn Stance Rk. II - 6760 hp, mana cost: 537
Stubborn Stance Rk. III - 7280 hp, mana cost: 572


Brell's Tellurian Rampart - Level 89
Upgrade to Brells buff
Range - 100
Duration - 800 ticks (80 minutes)
Cast Time - 4 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Brell's Tellurian Rampart - 848 hp, mana cost: 583
Brell's Tellurian Rampart Rk. II - 1002 hp, mana cost: 664
Brell's Tellurian Rampart Rk. III - 1079 hp, mana cost: 708


Mark of the Devout - Level 89
RDS upgrade line
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -61
Duration - 150 ticks (15 minutes)
Cast Time - 3 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Mark of the Devout - 43 rds, 25 ds, mana cost: 185
Mark of the Devout Rk. II - 49 rds, 28 ds, mana cost: 211
Mark of the Devout Rk. III - 53 rds, 31 ds, mana cost: 224


Wave of Penitence - Level 89
Grp Heal upgrade
AE Range - 100
Cast Time - 3 seconds
Recast - 18 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Wave of Penitence - 3875 heal, mana cost: 2553
Wave of Penitence Rk. II - 4205 heal, mana cost: 2770
Wave of Penitence Rk. III - 4423 heal, mana cost: 2914


Aurora of Daybreak - Level 90
Aurora upgrade
AE Range - 100
Cast Time - 3 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Aurora of Daybreak - 10.3 heal per mana, 20002 max, mana cost: 1942
Aurora of Daybreak Rk. II - 10.8 heal per mana, 21913 max, mana cost: 2029
Aurora of Daybreak Rk. III - 11.5 heal per mana, 23977 max, mana cost: 2085


Crush of Repentance - Level 90
Upgrade to crush of compunction line
Timer ID - 6
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -0
Cast Time - 0.5 seconds
Recast - 24 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Crush of Repentance - 1541 DD, 2786 Hate Override, mana cost: 454
Crush of Repentance Rk. II - 1751 DD, 3178 Hate Override, mana cost: 497
Crush of Repentance Rk. III - 1890 DD, 3387 Hate Override, mana cost: 523


Earnest Fury - Level 90
Upgrade to self buff proc line, procs the strike below it
Duration - 720 ticks (72 minutes)
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -0 (On the Proc)
Cast Time - 3 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 6 seconds
Earnest Fury - mana cost: 278
Earnest Fury Strike - 403 DD
Earnest Fury Rk. II - mana cost: 317
Earnest Fury Strike II - 457 DD
Earnest Fury Rk. III - mana cost: 338
Earnest Fury Strike III - 494 DD


Force of Marr - Level 90
Upgrade to force of crying seas stun line
Stun 4 seconds up to level 90
Timer ID - 5
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -61
Cast Time - 1 second
Recast - 12 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Force of Marr - 3906 Hate Override, mana cost: 100
Force of Marr Rk. II - 4454 Hate Override, mana cost: 100
Force of Marr Rk. III - 4747 Hate Override, mana cost: 100


Glorious Exoneration - Level 90
Upgrade to glorious vindication line
Timer ID - 7
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -500
Cast Time - 0.5 seconds
Recast - 18 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Glorious Exoneration - 1926 DD, mana cost: 793
Glorious Exoneration Rk. II - 2189 DD, mana cost: 844
Glorious Exoneration Rk. III - 2363 DD, mana cost: 882


Oathbound Keeper - Level 90
Upgrade to Aego line
Range - 100
Duration - 720 ticks (72 minutes)
Cast Time - 14 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Oathbound Keeper - 3011 hp, 144 ac, mana cost: 1346
Oathbound Keeper Rk. II - 3558 hp, 164 ac, mana cost: 1536
Oathbound Keeper Rk. III - 3832 hp, 175 ac, mana cost: 1636


Preservation of Marr - Level 90
Upgrade to X of Tunare self buff heal line
Timer ID - 12
Duration - 20 ticks (2 minutes)
Cast Time - 3 seconds
Recast - 30 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Max Hits - 29
Preservation of Marr - 45 ac, 69 str, 29 atk, mana cost: 732
Preservation of Marr Effect - 1272 heal + 1012 heal / tick
Preservation of Marr Rk. II - 51 ac, 69 str, 29 atk, mana cost: 756
Preservation of Marr Effect II - 1379 heal + 1097 heal / tick
Preservation of Marr Rk. III - 54 ac, 69 str, 29 atk, mana cost: 785
Preservation of Marr Effect III - 1452 heal + 1155 heal / tick


Protective Devotion - Level 90
Upgrade to Protective Confession
Timer ID - 9
Range - 200
Duration - 10 ticks (1 minute) (on the Vie)
Cast Time - 1 seconds
Recast - 5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Protective Devotion - 3078 heal, mana cost: 1154
Protective Devotion Guard - 15% absorb up to 14500 dmg
Protective Devotion Rk. II - 3341 heal, mana cost: 1284
Protective Devotion Guard II - 15% absorb up to 17137 dmg
Protective Devotion Rk. III - 3514 heal, mana cost: 1353
Protective Devotion Guard III - 15% absorb up to 18455 dmg







Propitiate - Level 86
Pacify (sigh :P) Also before you ask, yes, it does appear to go up to level 90
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -0
Duration - 4,5,6 ticks (24, 30, 36 seconds), ranks 1,2,3
Cast Time - 4.5 seconds
Recast - 1.5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Propitiate - Reaction Radius 18, mana cost: 819
Propitiate Rk. II - Reaction Radius 17, mana cost: 934
Propitiate Rk. III - Reaction Radius 16, mana cost: 995


Respite - Level 86
Endurance Regen! Every melee gets this
Timer ID - 12
Duration - 100 ticks (10 minutes)
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 2 minutes
Respite - 277 / tick End regen, cap at either 21% or 7161 End, whichever is lower while buff is active, end cost: 25 + 1 upkeep (per second)
Respite Rk. II - 316 / tick End regen, cap at either 25% or 8525 End, whichever is lower while buff is active, end cost: 25 + 1 upkeep (per second)
Respite Rk. III - 337 / tick End regen, cap at either 29% or 9889 End, whichever is lower while buff is active, end cost: 25 + 1 upkeep (per second)


Annihilate the Undead - Level 86
Another undead nuke with extra stuff on it
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -100 (on Nuke), Poison -1000 (on Weakness), Unresistable -1000 (On Destruction)
Cast Time - 1.5 seconds
Recast - 5.75 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Annihilate the Undead - 4194 DD, mana cost: 693, 10% chance to proc Weakness, 2% chance to proc Destruction
Annihilate the Undead Rk. II - 4764 DD, mana cost: 758, 10% chance to proc Weakness, 2% chance to proc Destruction
Annihilate the Undead Rk. III - 5146 DD, mana cost: 800, 10% chance to proc Weakness, 2% chance to proc Destruction
Annihilate Weakness - Resist debuff, -50 Cold, -50 Magic, -50 Poison, -50 Fire
Annihilate Destruction - 32000 DD


Denouncement - Level 87
ToTT Nuke Mob, Heal Tank combo
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -15
Cast Time - 2.5 seconds
Recast - 5 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Denouncement - 2334, (2 other DD's possible "banes") DD, mana cost: 1051
Denouncement Heal - 2185 heal
Denouncement Rk. II - 2651, (2 other DD's possible "banes") DD, mana cost: 1193
Denouncement Heal II - 2481 heal
Denouncement Rk. III - 2864, (2 other DD's possible "banes") DD, mana cost: 1296
Denouncement Heal III - 2709 heal


Armor of Courage - Level 88
Disc Vie #2, each rank Add defensive proc: Armor of Courage Strike x where x is the rank #, guessing the heal is a defensive or offensive proc that's also added
Timer ID - 10
Resist Type/Rate - Unresistable -90 (on the Strike)
Duration - 20 ticks (2 minutes)
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 5 minutes
Armor of Courage - 15% absorb up to 150150 dmg, end cost: 1979
Armor of Courage Strike - 826 DD
Armor of Courage Heal - 1443 heal
Armor of Courage Rk. II - 15% absorb up to 177450 dmg, end cost: 2302
Armor of Courage Strike II - 1136 DD
Armor of Courage Heal II - 1610 heal
Armor of Courage Rk. III - 15% absorb up to 191100 dmg, end cost: 2434
Armor of Courage Strike III - 1293 DD
Armor of Courage Heal III - 1882 heal


Righteous Indignation - Level 88
Strike attack, 0 mana, 0 end cost atm O.o
Range - 50
Resist Type/Rate - Unresistable -0
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 10 Minutes
Righteous Indignation - Skill Attack with 2her 1 strike per # at its value: 134, 141, 148, 156, 164
Righteous Indignation Rk. II - Skill Attack with 2her 1 strike per # at its value: 152, 160, 168, 177, 186
Righteous Indignation Rk. III - Skill Attack with 2her 1 strike per # at its value: 184, 194, 204, 215, 226


Penitence - Level 89
Looks to be a heal that heals for more the lower your hp gets and it's self only, think of Shaman Antecedent's Intervention but self only, I would guess that each # is the heal at each 20% chunk, example, 80%-100% on rank 1 = 3052 heal, 60-80% = 3989 heal, etc.
Cast Time - 0.25 seconds
Recast - 15 Minutes
Fizzle Time - 0.5 seconds
Penitence - 7288, 6140, 5037, 3989, 3052, mana cost: 1626
Penitence Rk. II - 7908, 6662, 5465, 4328, 3311, mana cost: 1764
Penitence Rk. III - 8565, 7216, 5920, 4689, 3587, mana cost: 1886


Pureforge Discipline - Level 90
Upgrade to Holyforge and/or New disc, there is a 3rd value that's same as cripple, unsure what it is if it is anything
Timer ID - 9
Duration - 20 ticks (2 minutes)
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 20 minutes
Pureforge Discipline - Chance to Crit: 215%, Chance to Cripple: 20%, end cost: 627 + 28 upkeep (per second)
Pureforge Discipline Rk. II - Chance to Crit: 220%, Chance to Cripple: 25%, end cost: 690 + 28 upkeep (per second)
Pureforge Discipline Rk. III - Chance to Crit: 225%, Chance to Cripple: 30%, end cost: 759 + 28 upkeep (per second)
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby shiftie » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:10 am

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

except wtf charge/symbol,aego upgrades lololololol


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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby riou » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:59 am

Yea, heals got damn expensive though since the mana went up same % as gain, need to cut off like 10-20% mana from each atleast :P

Also, Touch < Ranger/Beastlord heal is balls, nerf theirs or boost ours plz, its 200 more hp and 200 more mana, should be weaker then ours or ours above theirs :P
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby Thessiuss » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:21 am

IMO can we opt to trade the symbol spell for a self only heal? Maybe there's something i'm missing but i don't think i've used that spell once for the past 2 expansions.
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby Normy » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:05 am

Looks pretty good if most/all of them actually make it into game.

As for the buffs, we might as well get used to the same upgrades that we'll always get with level increases. That means symbol (I've also found this to be nearly useless, think I've cast it twice in the last year), brells, charge (cast time keeps this off my spell lineup), self weapon proc, stun upgrades, ect. I doubt they will ever let us trade some of these out for more useful spells, although I honestly do use aego spell line for buffing people after battle rezzes or when i'm soloing. /shrug

I am a little confused that ranger/beastlord heal edges ours out a little, but in the end I don't care that much. They have one heal that matches one of my several heals, and it's not even the heal I use most often.

Self corruption cure is kinda pointless. I've not come around much that isn't already easily cured by our current self corruption cure. Guessing this is the copy/paste portion of spell design.

It would be nice to see them tweak the cost of heals, even if its just slightly, to make them more efficient than previous heals. I love that the amounts got tuned up, and I would rather pay the extra mana for a bigger single cast, but in terms of mana/heal ration we've been pretty linear the last few expansions. Still, if I had to get used to larger mana costs, as long as its healing harder I don't worry about it.

Righteous Indignation = Righteous Fury maybe?

The new stuff looks like it could be fun. Depending on how all this goes before the next expansion launch, we might have a few new toys to work with.
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

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Postby Hulkling » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 am

yes I know its not a new line. I'll rephrase: "And even if they get a new additional heal line in HoT....." Another difference is ours is more mana efficient....though I'd still rather have thiers lol.

It doesn't look like our Light line got a very good boost. Its still sucky.

Joyous Light - Level 87
Upgrade to fast heal Light line
Joyous Light - 2286 heal, mana cost: 715
Joyous Light Rk. II - 2480 heal, mana cost: 776
Joyous Light Rk. III - 2610 heal, mana cost: 817
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Postby riou » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:13 am

Well to be fair that's a 30% upgrade instead of the standard 10% hehe, wonder if the values are supposed to be more like the upgraded protective confession heal? like the UF one is same as Light (right?), which is:

Protective Devotion - 3078 heal, mana cost: 1154
Protective Devotion Rk. II - 3341 heal, mana cost: 1284
Protective Devotion Rk. III - 3514 heal, mana cost: 1353



I updated that post with the exact values of ranger heal, and the potions


rangers is a 4315 heal / 1324 mana vs touches 4192 heal / 1137 mana at rank3 of each

Btw, the best hot pot is only gonna be 1620 / tick, which is weaker then sod hot hehe, and the direct heal pot gonna be 3580
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Postby Atnuob » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:15 am

what does that first number on armor of courage suppose to mean? if u know, riou
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Postby Hulkling » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:03 pm

hmmm yeah thats wierd. Can you tell if its a Disc or Spell?
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby Nodden » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:14 pm

Vie on Charge got multiplied by 6, vie on Confession got multiplied by 4.
Too good to be true, most of the good stuff will get neutered as usual :P .
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Postby boukk » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:10 pm

Lot of decent stuff in here.

And pacify AT last.

My bet is ranger/bst heal being higher than our is an oversight, it either way will be corrected imo, I d rather see our uped a bit more than their nerfed tho, with the current content dps, and what HoT is going to be, It will be needed either way.

As for HoTs, if they want them to be useful again, they need to cut their mana cost in half, it used to be some very mana efficient heal.
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Postby varutia » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:24 pm

Nice stuff, just about everything I see I liked.
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby riou » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:36 am

Bump, updated OP with all the extra values, like range, cast times, fizzle time = spell gem lockout, recast, AE range, Timer ID's, resist types, etc, updated also what the spells even do for probably 5 or 6 of em (Armor of Courage, Pureforge, Penitence, Denouncement, etc).


Also, it's weird that crush is > aggro then the stun when they used to be equal :P

Also, my bad if I copy pasted something wrong lemme know :P

If you want to know some other value can prob put it up

Some nukes seem to have additional nuke values that maybe Banes?
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Postby Normy » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:27 am

The only downside is I hate being excited about spells before beta hits, lol.
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby Silverboltt » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:08 am

How out of the question would be it to add 27/36/42 AC to Brell's? Put the AC component of brell's in slot 8 and it will only conflict with mage self Empyrean line and monk celestial tranquility. Monks shouldn't be using brell's anyway, and then just move empyrean line to slot 5 (which only has bracing defense and ward of tunare). Viola: Brell's is a great buff line again.

Compare:

Brell's III: 938hp

Verve III: 637hp + 103 atk

Yowl III: 179 atk + Dbl Atk +4%

Little bit of AC on Brell's would make it damn good.
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Postby Normy » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:46 am

My fear is rarely if they are exploitable or overpowered, but how much will the other communities complain and call for nerf or removal. I remember plenty of good ideas, non-exploitable, and altogether good spell concepts get scrapped because it was stepping on toes of other classes. Silent Piety, cone-based AE agro, I think even a pacy spell was put into beta and pulled once, wasn't it?.

I truely hope you are correct, but I'm admittingly jaded.

As for Brells, I just wish they would build in our aura 5% heal boost with it, make it so it doesn't stack with our aura. That would make it a great defensive buff. Modify our current version to have 4%, make next expansions the 5%, and then can look forward to 6% in a hypothetical expansion past that. Small, not overpowering, and it would take another 5 years before it would approach being overpowered, which HP inflation will likely counter anyway.
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby riou » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:29 pm

So, I was looking at what other classes got and I found a Disc every melee and hybrid gets:


Respite - Level 86
Endurance Regen! Every melee gets this
Timer ID - 12
Duration - 100 ticks (10 minutes)
Cast Time - Instant
Recast - 2 minutes
Respite - 277 / tick End regen, cap at either 21% or 7161 End, whichever is lower while buff/disc is active, end cost: 25 + 1 upkeep (per second)
Respite Rk. II - 316 / tick End regen, cap at either 25% or 8525 End, whichever is lower while buff/disc is active, end cost: 25 + 1 upkeep (per second)
Respite Rk. III - 337 / tick End regen, cap at either 29% or 9889 End, whichever is lower while buff/disc is active, end cost: 25 + 1 upkeep (per second)
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Re: HoT Spell list in Test File so far

Postby riou » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:49 pm

After looking at cleric one next, I found another spell we show as sharing:


Annihilate the Undead - Level 86
Another undead nuke with extra stuff on it
Range - 200
Resist Type/Rate - Magic -100 (on Nuke), Poison -1000 (on Weakness), Unresistable -1000 (On Destruction)
Cast Time - 1.5 seconds
Recast - 5.75 seconds
Fizzle Time - 1.5 seconds
Annihilate the Undead - 4194 DD, mana cost: 693, 10% chance to proc Weakness, 2% chance to proc Destruction
Annihilate the Undead Rk. II - 4764 DD, mana cost: 758, 10% chance to proc Weakness, 2% chance to proc Destruction
Annihilate the Undead Rk. III - 5146 DD, mana cost: 800, 10% chance to proc Weakness, 2% chance to proc Destruction
Annihilate Weakness - Resist debuff, -50 Cold, -50 Magic, -50 Poison, -50 Fire
Annihilate Destruction - 32000 DD
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Postby boukk » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:05 pm

yeah, need to double that like ;p.

As for the undead nuke shared, looks elite.
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Postby Brohg » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:05 am

Duration - 20 ticks (2 minutes)

That's insanity! No wonder the boost isn't higher!
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Postby knytul » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:16 pm

one day we can only dream this about our dps as paladins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik
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Postby Brohg » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:06 pm

No it's not sarcasm. All the discs actual melee classes use are duration: 5 ticks, not 20. The highest level warrior damage disc, Brutal Onslaught (rank 3 which not so many actually have at this point, since it comes only from Solteris):
1: Increase Chance to Critical Hit by 270% with All Skills
2: Increase Chance to Crippling Blow by 100%
3: Critical Damage Mob (160)

with one FOURTH the duration.
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