SU3 thru VU3 (Cellan, 10/21/05)

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SU3 thru VU3 (Cellan, 10/21/05)

Postby Valya Wanderfoot » Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:41 pm

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:11 am Post subject: SU3 thru VU3 Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
READ ONLY PLEASE. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD WITH RANTING OR ANALYSIS. PLEASE START ANOTHER THREAD FOR THAT IF YOU MUST.

I have volunteered myself to re-parse Slay Undead 3 post DoD and then parse each level of Vanquish Undead so we can have some sort of information to pass along to each other. During the course of my re-parsing I have noticed changes to my critical, cripple, slay rates. I will just provide raw information and numbers, please discuss it in another thread and perhaps we can keep this one clean with just numbers to reference.

Well, I have mimiced the exact same fighting conditions to the best of my ability of my SU3 parse I did a while back. There are only 3 changes in my re-parse of SU3.

1. Attack went from 1599 to 1592. Gear is all the same though so I don't know where the difference came from.
2. During the re-parse I decided not to use Valor of Marr for haste at all (as I did periodically in my original parse before I decided to buy potions). All fighting is with the 50% haste potions rather, which is what an overwhelming majority of my original parse was with. They have no value other than attack rate so should not affect the conversions.
3. For the re-parse I have acquired Swift Blade 2 (more extra attacks with 2-handed weapons)

Cleave3 SU3 Baseline
Normal (6hr 42min 48sec)
-hits = 20,609
-criticals = 1,279 ... 6.21%
-slays = 430 ... 2.09%
-total special = 1,709 ... 8.29%
Holyforge x9 (58min 34sec)
-hits = 3,108
-criticals = 179 ... 5.76%
-cripples = 106 ... 3.41%
-slays = 111 ... 3.57%
-total special = 396 ... 12.74%

Cleave3 SU3 Follow-up (minimum slay = 917 / maximum slay = 5,184)
Normal (5hr 09min 18sec)
-hits = 22,788
-criticals = 1,043 ... 4.58%
-slays = 314 ... 1.38%
-total special = 1,357 ... 5.95%
Holyforge x12 (1hr 10min 23sec)
-hits = 5,312
-criticals = 262 ... 4.93%
-cripples = 121 ... 2.28%
-slays = 111 ... 2.09%
-total special = 494 ... 9.30%


Differences post DoD:
Normal
-critials = 73.75% of pre-DoDH
-slays = 66.03% of pre-DoDH
-total special = 71.77% of pre-DoDH
Holyforge
-criticals = 85.59% of pre-DoDH
-cripples = 66.86% of pre-DoDH
-slays = 58.54% of pre-DoDH
-total special = 73.00% of pre-DoDH

this is a cut and paste of same thread at EQLive

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:03 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Cleave3 VU1
(minimum slay = 970 / maximum slay = 5,488)
Normal (4hr 30min 59sec)
-hits = 19,834
-criticals = 922 ... 4.65%
-slays = 615 ... 3.10%
-total special = 1,537 ... 7.75%
Holyforge x8 (52min 26sec)
-hits = 4,099
-criticals = 157 ... 3.83%
-cripples = 113 ... 2.76%
-slays = 132 ... 3.22%
-total special = 402 ... 9.81%

Differences SU3 to VU1:
minimum slay = +53 ... +5.78%
maximum slay = +304 ... +5.86%
Normal
-critials = +1.53%
-slays = +124.64%
-total special = +30.25%
Holyforge
-criticals = -22.31%
-cripples = +21.05%
-slays = +54.07%
-total special = +5.48%
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Cleave3 VU2
(minimum slay = 1,023 / maximum slay = 5,792)
Normal (4hr 48min 41sec)-hits = 21,005
-criticals = 952 ... 4.53%
-slays = 672 ... 3.20%
-total special = 1,624 ... 7.73%
Holyforge x9 (57min 48sec)
-hits = 4,440
-criticals = 194 ... 4.37%
-cripples = 110 ... 2.48%
-slays = 176 ... 3.96%
-total special = 480 ... 10.81%

Differences VU1 to VU2:
minimum slay = 53 ... 5.46%
maximum slay = 304 ... 5.54%
Normal
critials = -2.58%
slays = +3.23%
total special = -0.26%
Holyforge
criticals = +14.10%
cripples = -10.14%
slays = +22.98%
total special = +10.19%

Differences SU3 to VU2:
minimum slay = 103 ... +11.56%
maximum slay = 608 ... +11.73%

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:26 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Cleave3 VU3:
(minimum slay = 1,076 / maximum slay = 6,096)
Normal (5hr 02min 37sec)
-hits = 22,189
-criticals = 958 ... 4.34%
-slays = 734 ... 3.31%
Holyforge x9 (58min 50sec)
-hits = 4,631
-criticals = 174 ... 3.76%
-cripples = 111 ... 2.40%
-slays = 189 ... 4.08%

Differences VU2 to VU3:
minimum slay = 53 ... +5.18%
maximum slay = 304 ... +5.25%
Normal
critials = -4.19%
slays = +3.44%
Holyforge
criticals = -13.96%
cripples = -3.23%
slays = +3.03%

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:26 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Differences SU3 (pre-DoDH) to VU3:
minimum slay = 159 ... +17.34%
maximum slay = 912 ... +17.59%
Normal
critials = -30.11%
slays = +58.37%
Holyforge
criticals = -24.65%
cripples = -29.62%
slays = +14.29%

Differences SU3 (post-DoDH) to VU3:
minimum slay = 159 ... +17.34%
maximum slay = 912 ... +17.59%
Normal
critials = -5.24%
slays = +139.86%
Holyforge
criticals = -23.73%
cripples = +5.26%
slays = +95.22%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Because of varying hastes of switching Valor of Marr and Elixir of Speed X in my pre-DoDH SU parse the DPS values wouldn't reflect anything accurate so I never bothered to gather that information. Here is a look at the DPS values from SU3 to VU3.

Weapon is Shimmering Jade of Vengeance with a Shining Bloodstone auged into it.

dmg48(+1disease) delay22

Cleave3, Ferocity3, all offensive AAs thru OoW and Swift Blade2
Hasted 95% with the occassional times it wears off and I reclick right away
attack 1592
dex281

Cleave3 SU3 post-DoDH
Normal
DPS = 238.91
DPS from slays = 51.89 ... 21.72% of total DPS
Holyforge
DPS = 282.11
DPS from slays = 76.43 ... 27.09% of total DPS
Total DPS increase normal to Holyforge = +43.3 ... +18.12%

Cleave3 VU1
Normal
DPS = 290.55
DPS from slays = 118.26 ... 40.73% of total DPS
Total DPS increase SU3 to VU1 = +51.61 ... +21.61%
Holyforge
DPS = 333.84
DPS from slays = 134.66 ... 40.34% of total DPS
Total DPS increase normal to Holyforge = +43.29 ... +14.90%
Total DPS increase SU3 to VU1 = +51.73 ... +18.34%

Cleave3 VU2
Normal
DPS = 303.34
DPS from slays = 126.71 ... 41.77% of total DPS
Total DPS increase VU1 to VU2 = +12.79 ... 4.40%
Holyforge
DPS = 370.35
DPS from slays = 170.81 ... 46.12% of total DPS
Total DPS increase normal to Holyforge = +67.01 ... +22.09%
Total DPS increase VU1 to VU2 = +36.51 ... +10.94%

Cleave3 VU3
Normal
DPS = 309.15
DPS from slays = 135.16 ... 43.72% of total DPS
Total DPS from VU2 to VU3 = +5.81 ... +1.92%
Holyforge
DPS = 392.99
DPS from slays = 196.37 ... 49.97% of total DPS
Total DPS increase from normal to Holyforge = +83.84 ... +27.12%
Total DPS increase from VU2 to VU3 = +22.64 ... +6.11%

Total Normal DPS increase from SU3 to VU3 = +70.24 ... +29.40%
Total Holyforge DPS increase from SU3 to VU3 = +110.88 ... +39.30%
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Can I buy a sticky please?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
Nice work, Thanks for posting.
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