Any thoughts on race advantage for a Bard?

[Bigcat Daddy-o]

[Idracab]

You're going to be getting all the illusion masks you can, so it doesn't matter a whit what your original race is. Go Drakkin because you'll be able to get other race illusion masks (is there a drakkin mask yet?).

[Samanna]

[Frogbait]

[Ughbash]

[Valdemar]

[Grokii]

[Grokii]

[Zyba]

[Samanna]

[Eirgorn]

[Zyba]

[Macnair]

[Bigcat Daddy-o]

[Ughbash]

[Valdemar]

[WaringMcMarrin]

[Zyba]

[Bigcat Daddy-o]

[Zyba]

[WaringMcMarrin]

[Ughbash]

[WaringMcMarrin]

[Macnair]

[Samanna]

[WaringMcMarrin]

[Samanna]

[Valdemar]

Sorry for the delay in getting back to the boards.

Warring, thanks for taking the time to do your Magelo experiment. I'm not sure why it shows the two characters with equal hitpoints. It shouldn't, but it does. Most puzzling. I've tried to think of various reasons for this, but I'm stumped.

If you're willing to perform another experiment, it will show that different STA scores do make a difference in hitpoints. Here's the gig:

1) Create a level 1 'toon of any race and any class, but make sure that no points are added to STA.
2) Enter the tutorial newbie garden and record your starting hitpoints.
3) Level the character to level 2.
4) Record the new hitpoint total.

Now, create a new level 1 'toon of the same race and class, but dump as many points into STA as possible. Repeat steps one through four. You will see that they have more hitpoints. The best 'toon to do this on is an Ogre WAR because the hitpoint difference is dramatic.

Also, I know from personal experience that increasing your native STA does increase your hitpoints. When I was 51...way back in the day...I gained 5 AAs in STA before I leveled to 52. My native (no gear, no buffs) hitpoints increased by about 50 points from that 10 point increase in my STA. I did this experiment several more times with my wife's 'toons where we'd add 5 STA at 51 without leveling or changing gear, and sure enough, more hitpoints - both geared and nekked. Some classes will get more hitpoints that others, because the hitpoint bonus from STA varies by class type, but everybody gets more hitpoints with higher native STA.

Why the Magelo contradicts this, I do not know. All I know is that this is how it works in the game.

Regards.

[Amanensia]

[Kianor]

[Valdemar]

[Kianor]

Valdemar, no-one is denying that more sta = more HP, and that that is a good thing. I don't doubt that adding 10 sta AA gave you more HP, because your sta was uncapped.

However, you specifically said that if two characters have the same sta, then the one with higher "native" sta will have more HP. This is wrong. Same sta will mean the same HP, and it doesn't matter where that sta comes from. This is why the sta cap is important, once you have enough gear to reach that, then it doesn't matter what your starting sta was.

[Valdemar]

[Amanensia]

[Veril]

I remember capping my Sta and Wis both as far back as level 60 (in Velious gear from Temple of Veeshan). It's really easy to cap stats these days. Especially as a shaman.

[Siocnarf]

Once your near max level (80) and have full suit 200+ hp gear you should be maxed in related to your class stats what ever race you choosed.Of course if your a ogre warrior and want to max int for tradeskills then it might become harder then if you were a human and such.But once your in the level 70 + range with 200+ hps gear ( if not 150 + for war/monk/rog/zerk) the races becomes pretty much blurred out stats wise.The only difference is how many shrink u require and other racial traits (frontal stun immune,sneak,hide,safe fall,food consumption rate,regen rate,racial bash,faction ( for older content),ac bonus (iksar),innate forage,etc (most likely more i forgot here)).

[Zyba]

You forgot nightvision!!

[Caythy]

[Zyba]