Rampage... how do ya'll set it?

[Grokii]

[Brohg]

Once a character is the ramp tank, he'll stay the ramp tank until he dies, goes out of range, or becomes the tank. There's no reason for the ramp tank to stay high on agro, thus taking agro if the MT dies. When your main tank does die, have someone besides the ramp tank take over, and the ramp tank will stay the ramp tank.

[GheffGutterbrains]

Luclin era page was a unique beast....

Concept 1: Page is a seperate list to the agro list... If I recall right, once page is set, it will *not* change in luclin(unless you camped...).. Only way to not take page at that point is to be out of range or out of zone (a few encounters were zone wide)... Note that as soon as you are rezzed, and back in that range, you take your spot back on the page list...
*Sidenote: Not sure if they fixed the beastlord pet issue.. Used to be able to put BL pet on list.. When it died, summon a new one.. Since BL pet keep same name, it would take its spot on the list again..

Concept 2: Any direct or indirect agro puts you on agro list and next slot in page list.... This includes direct melee/spells to the mob, the mob's agro ability (AE, LoS, or agro-range), and anything you do to someone that is on that list (heals, cures, buffs, songs, MGBs, blah blah blah)

You have the right idea... Have several plates pretag the mob.. Easy on some encounters like AL cycle since they are rooted... Thing to watch for, once on page list, you cant remove unless you camp.. When I did AL cycle, we would Targ the named and see whos on list and make them camp.. Once cleared, all hide behind the pillars, and tank order would pop out one at a time and tag the mob... For those you pull to camp, make sure the page tanks are out away from raid and arrow the mob.. Main tank doesnt have too as he'll be top on Agro list anyhow (can't be top on both even if he's last man standing lol)..

Hope that helps from my old age memory..

[Grokii]

Brohg, the problem is... on Rhag2 we're nearing the room and I call out to the raid to make sure to set rampage.. blah blah. The raid leader calls for me to debuff a bit later, I do, and WTH... I'm ramapge tank? So I have to back out of range so someone else gets RT.

On a rooted mob its unacceptable, but we had problems in the last emp fight when the blood whupped on a poor cleric because they healed on inc when the MT pulled.

I know rampage is not based on aggro but on the chronological time a person is added to the hate list. Its just that when I suggest we have 2-3 tanks shoot an arrow on inc I get told that isn't needed. But I do think it's needed because I don't like being RT and I don't like it when clerics go down. So, I'm just wondering what others do to set rampage cleanly.

[Brohg]

Sounds like people not following instructions. You do have the right idea already, and for sure there's no call for you or any clerics to be on rampage.

SR always leads the way with a knight who has their invuln on, either DA or Harmshield. Not many mobs are rooted like in Ssra anymore, so that's more effective for us than shooting arrows.

[Litchebane]

You NEED to set rampage tank, very important, don't listen to them if they say it's not needed. if you don't set it and know who it is, inevitably a bard or cleric or another healer will get it.

[Exeley]

When we were doing the perma rooted mobs in SSRA we'd usually debuff the mob then have a chanter mem wipe a couple times if I remember correctly. Then we'd either send the rampage tank in before the MT, or set rampage by having the RT tag the mob with some arrows before engaging. All members of our raids are to have a "rampage" hotkey to mash anytime they catch rampage so that the rampage healers can adjust.

Exeley

[Jalelin]

[Beafly]

[jdthomas]

[Veril]

[Grokii]

[Brohg]