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Why are DoT worthless on so many mobs ?

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Why are DoT worthless on so many mobs ?

Postby dohrian » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:37 am

I do a lot of 1 group "raid" mobs (with my 7 players guild), and found that many of them are immune to DoTs (Krekk for final war 1.5 epic, Chailak, Draygun in 70.5H, many other 1.5 epic mobs), even after malos and tash (no immune messages, but resisted every time). That is realy frustrating, all I can do for DPS is panther, or load a weak DD. I would like to be able to stack a few DoTs on them. What are your opinion on that ?

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Postby Maitz » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:26 am

Welcome to neco everyday life on raids :p
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Postby Scowls » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:10 am

alot of mobs have atleast 1 weakness for us to get some form of dps in on, even if that means reverting back to panthering the melee in the group.


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Postby Ungkor » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:33 am

The higher up in raid content you go, the more you'll be a primary healer for dps groups. Champ/panther/epic/heal/cures. That is your life on raids basically.

I can count on half a hand the mobs I dot on. If your healing isn't needed for an event, and dots don't land, panther everyone, including yourself, and melee/rabid bear.

And yes, its frustrating. That is why one of our top 10 issues on our list is negative resist check on dots.

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Postby Jaraman » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:15 pm


The best solution is not either/or, but best-of.
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Postby Fudapuda » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:31 pm

Just to emphasis something from above:

"Raid" mobs--even those doable by a single group--almost always have higher resists than yard trash mobs or even named mobs. To really do much to them they need to be fully debuffed, which means Malos, Tash, HoS, and probably Malosinia. If you are doing these single-group, and don't have a bard and/or enchanter, you may find it very difficult to land dots on them. And keep in mind that the same debuffs affect DD damage too--so debuffing doesn't just help shaman or necros, but anyone who does spell damage. So debuffing as much as possible is definitely in order.

But shaman still have lots to keep them busy even if they can't dot or DD well (and IMO shaman attempting to dps on most boss mobs are getting very low value for their time and mana). Heals, cures, laying on procs and Champ, etc. If you ever see a shaman doing nothing during a fight with a boss mob, you are probably looking at an afk (or lazy) shaman :)

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