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The Spirit Realm • View topic - GoM change on test
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GoM change on test

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:13 pm
by Spicollix
These items are currently on the Test Server. We expect these will be going to Live Servers in Upcoming Live Updates, but can not guarantee they will be in the next Live Update. Please feel free to log onto Test and check them out!

*** Events ***

- The planar projection for defeating Mithaniel Marr was not rewarding the correct character flags. This has been fixed.

*** Tradeskills ***

– Planar Fletching Kits are now tradeable.
- Changed Othmir Short Beer to use a bottle instead of a Cask.

*** Spells ***

- Increased the duration and lowered the mana cost of Talisman of the Tribunal.
- The Test of Efficiency spell should no longer conflict with Peace of the Disciple or Grace of the Order.

*** AAs ***

- Gift of Mana will no longer be used up when casting a 0 mana spell after it has triggered on you.
- Gift of Mana should now have a chance to trigger on heals other than just instant heals, including heal over time and percent healing spells.
- The way that the wizard AA Mana Burn works has been modified. The new version will use a maximum of 3000 mana instead of draining your whole pool and will do 4 damage for every point of mana spent. This is a raw channeling of magical energy that cannot be focused, and will not crit. The ability is unresistable by normal creatures, but certain extremely powerful creatures may be immune to the effects. Like the original version, once a Mana Burn ability has affected a target, no other mana burn abilities will be able to affect that target for the next minute. Upgraded versions of the ability, Mana Blast and Mana Blaze, are available at level 65 and level 70 and use a maximum of 6000 and 9000 mana respectively. The original Mana Burn ability has been refunded and can be repurchased by Wizards interested in the new version.

[/b] - Gift of Mana will no longer be used up when casting a 0 mana spell after it has triggered on you.
- Gift of Mana should now have a chance to trigger on heals other than just instant heals, including heal over time and percent healing spells.
[/i]

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:22 pm
by Khrent
The GoM is an ok fix but it still doesn't address the fact that it doesn't look like it will proc off of panther which everyone said is the spell that they cast the most in groups. Wasn't there supposed to be a fix that put a minimum mana amount for GoM to proc off of instead of just certain spells?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:30 pm
by Brohg

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:38 pm
by REWTS

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:45 pm
by Macnair
Because, as has been explained many times, it is "impossible to refund AA points" TO SHAMANS.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:36 pm
by Tordail

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:52 pm
by Brohg
It's remarkable how effective simple communication is at holding the good will of the community.

Image for Rashere.

Now he just has to follow through :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:53 pm
by Tordail
Haha yes, much love for Rashere. <3

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:25 pm
by Scowls
so we can take talisman of the tribunal's super high mana cost and short duration off the shaman top 10 list now right? o yeah, it was never an issue

I hope this massive change to shaman power doesnt disrupt and unbalance the entire game on test, i would hate to see this not make it to live. thanks Devs for taking teh time to fix exactly what shamans have communicated to you thru our class rep, top ten list, /petitions, and /bug reports. you couldnt have spent your time more wisely, now you can go back to working on fixing on EQplayers and other obviously broken issues that directly impact gameplay

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:58 pm
by Brohg

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:09 am
by Moontrei
Ancient Canni still cancells GoM.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:25 am
by Brohg
It's on Test.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:13 am
by Moontrei
Am I just missing the point of the post again?

Nm answered my own question. I think I will just go shoot myself.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:10 am
by Kozul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:01 am
by Tobyus

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:23 am
by Beafly

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:25 am
by Kozul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:03 am
by Scalia

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:28 pm
by Beafly
So what you're saying is that saving the 500 mana and 12 seconds required to maintain the old version of the spell over a 4 hour period will be game changing for you?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:39 pm
by Brohg
If the fix were game-changing, it couldn't have been done so easily. Scowls made this same complaint in another thread, and I just don't get it. Fixing the resist Talisman doesn't cure cancer or get the Army out of Iraq, either, but that doesn't make it not a positive change.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:23 pm
by Kozul
positive yes, useful at all to just about any shaman? Absolutely not, at least in my eyes.

Pointless changes, while positive, are still pointless, and don't help our situation at all.

That's my point.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:26 pm
by Brohg
So they shouldn't be done?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:33 pm
by Macnair

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:40 pm
by Beafly

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:52 pm
by Brohg

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:54 pm
by Kozul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:59 pm
by Scowls
NO it doesnt cure cancer or keep the army in Iraq (hi, former miltary, wounded in combat, damn proud of the job they are doing over there and think you wantch to much pansy ass CNN), but this change, and the pathetically small and insignificant change to ToT is just Rytan tossing us a bone (B, only B, macnair can remove the other choice) and convincing himself he did the shaman comunity a major favor and that we now are happy. hell he probably thinks we owe him a favor now.
Making GoM fire on HoTs just fixes their own bug (obvious lack of game knowlege forgetting that HoTs are slows) of Hots not firing it but REGEN does. WTG, they couldnt explain it, wihout admiting they dont know what they are doing...so they are going to put in the live server patch update the "Heal over time will NOW trigger GoM" wording insinuating that they are adding a bonus for us, instead of admiting that it shold have worked that wy all along (despite 5 months of petitions alerting them to this problem)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:25 pm
by Walknot
It was all good till Brohg whiped out his emoticon with the flowers. /shivers

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:08 am
by Brohg
Don't make me Image about the horrible lack of decent smileys around here. Sometimes you just gotta Image is all. So I had a thought (Image) to use Image from another site. Call me a Image if you like, I'll never Image my Image for Image.

Image < This guy is laughing evilly, and so am I!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:39 am
by KB
:shock: <-----thats my favorite all time.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:29 am
by siludorf
/cheers at Rashere, I hope he fixes spirit of cheetah next so we can remove that from our top 10 list.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:42 am
by Grizlor

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:26 pm
by Derakahn

PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:07 pm
by Brohg

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:24 pm
by Pecannius
I understand that this post is about changes on the test server. But to my knowledge, I thought that all clickies / 0 mana spells on live servers could NOT trigger GoM. Vish ring fired my GoM.

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Note, "Your Mark of the Brood Warden begins to glow" is the message when using the clicky on the ring. "Your Mark of the Brood Warden shimmers briefly" is the message received when the spell haste from the ring is used. Just wanted to make sure the ring click was distinguished from the spell haste message.

I guess I missed something. I thought all 0 mana clicks couldn't trigger GoM.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:45 pm
by Macnair
Well, it seems to be triggering off of Yoppa's Mending, a spell of high enough level that heals someone, thus meeting the original criterion for Gift of Mana.

It would tend to make me think that their "fix" so far was not to add a generic test for whether the spell you just cast is supposed to cost you mana. Instead, they seem to have added a specific test for whether the spell you just cast was Pained Memory; and they have turned off the Gift of Mana trigger for that specified case.