Playstyle and your mana bar

[Jaraman]

[Hunkan]

[Looka]

[Jind]

[Ungkor]

[Dasha]

well in a group situation my mana bar is usually 100 - 75.. but then again I canni every time pained memory and canni 5 comes up so no issues with mana at all even with no C.. thats with usual slow - leopard - dot or 2.. if im healin then no dots still no issue..

raids Its all different I am usually at 0-20 at end of every fight then its buff buff buff buff and FM before next named...

[Trevalen]

I don't think the amount of mana you keep in reserve has a significant effect on how much you contribute to a group over a long period of time. In the course of a typical chain pulling group you quickly spend all the initial mana you came to the group with and are then spending mana that you've regenerated. You're limited by your mana regeneration rate whether you decide to hover at 10% mana or 90% mana.

Keeping more mana in reserve is safer and doesn't really effect how many spells you cast over a typical group lasting several hours. The only things that will really make a difference are:

1) Ending the group with mana unspent.
2) Having too much "downtime" during the group such that you can regen to full and not have a mob in camp to spend the mana on.

[Samanna]

A point I'd like to make:

If Shaman A's combined mana regen (from mount, canni spell, canni5, worn FT, buffs, etc) and mana preservation (from whatever sources) are the same as Shaman B's and Shaman C's, and they are each mostly sustaining a set amount of mana (20m, 50m, 80m, whatever), then they're each doing the same amount of work.

If Shaman A prefers to play with 20m most of the time, that's okay - more thrilling maybe, playing with a smaller buffer. If Shaman B prefers to play with 50m most of the time, that's okay - more safety than A. If Shaman C preferst to hover around 80m most of the time, that's okay too - C will have more mana to react with when needed.

But remember, if they each are expending and regenning at about the same rate, they're each doing about as much work as each other. The one who stays at 80m isn't doing less than the one at 20m, he just didn't start out with a big mana pool draining bang, and he has more to play with when the Cleric goes down.

So, having said that, my mana bar usually ranges from 80m, when I add another panther target to the mix, to 50m, when I stop panthering the toon who most often doesn't have the current target targeted when I f-key through on panther rounds. Perhaps some folks feel they're doing more or better by staying at low mana, but I just don't see it that way.

[Henora]

I was going to point out something very similar to what Samanna posted about relative levels of mana based on mana pool, mana regen etc.

Personally, I tend to hover between 80-40% but in general I have high mana regen available in all my groups. I almost always have oak, clairvoyance, maelins click, only 15ft though and bard song. I don't have much trouble keeping up slows, leopard & champ on my group and pet and throwing a nuke or 2 (or a sisslak) and sticking above 50%. The only time I really burn a lot of mana is in stuff like MPG trials and such where time really matters and when I am main healing or doing heavy cover healing.

I like to keep a large reserve because our heals are pretty mana intensive... and when I am having to heal, I often don't have a lot of time to stand around and cast SC and HOT myself (chances are, by this time, anc. aid and epic click are down...and I have a lot of AA to get before I am going to get greater rabid.

[Yesak]

Honestly, as a shaman, I regen mana faster than anyone. It happens that I'm in a RSS group where the cleric or druid cant keep up with heals when chain pulling. I step up and main heal in addition to slows. Normally in that situation I keep my mana above 60 to 70% just in case I get in trouble and need to chain Yoppa's for a while. I tend to keep my mana high % whatever I'm doing. Always have the "just in case" attitude

[Brohg]

Samanna ftw. A caster's contribution over time comes down to mana regen capacity. What level you maintain as a matter of course isn't relevant at all, until a crisis arrives, or unless you accidentally get to 100%, FM. Full mana is a bad situation, because your mana regen capabilities aren't functional. So I cast whatever I have to in order for canni to stay functional, but otherwise most often have a pretty blue bar. Honestly, under stable circumstances, it's tough to fit enough casting in with good spells. Champ, Panther x4-5, Sisslak & Bane, Serenity on 1/2 targets... I usually end up throwing heals to piss off clerics that use CHeal, just to stay behind mana regen at all. Luckily, "stable circumstances" aren't the norm! SNAFU, if you know what I mean

[Fandele Longtooth]

What Brohg said.

I try to pop any mana regen I've got as often as possible. Cann 5, SC, what have you. I've always felt more limited by not being able to burn through mana fast enough to keep it regenning than anything else.

I need better spell haste

[Jaraman]

[Jaraman]

[Dasha]

[Shamylamy]

[Kianor]

[Scowls]

[Jaraman]

[Samanna]

[Kianor]

[Scowls]

only difference would be that he 12k mana shaman is casting and regening alot more to stay at 50m than the 6km shaman.

[Samanna]

[arkis]

[Jaraman]

[GheffGutterbrains]

[Samanna]

[Trevalen]

[Samanna]

[Scowls]

[Trevalen]

[Jaraman]

[Jaraman]

[Brohg]

[Samanna]

[Jin]

[Ollesk]

Call me a newbie shaman then but here what i do in a typical RSS grp:

[step1] Buff the grp, grp wunshi, haste(if no chanter)stamina, sense, agility, diaku, regem, billy(incase no one has run5), and tribunal. After rebuffing done im down to about 30% mana. We take a quick break and i regen my mana(pained momory, canni5, mod rods(i always grab one from a mge in GH).

[step2] I load my grp spell set which conists of this, and it is in this order: 1)Pained Memory 2) Ice age 3) Spiritual Serenity 4) malos 5) Yoppa's Mending 6) Curse of Sisslak 7) Breath of Wunshi Balance of discord 9) Blood of Yopaa.

[step3] Inc Mob--First thing i do is slow it asap with discord.
[step4] When slow lands, drop malos on it.
[step5] Click TA
[step6] Curse of Sisslak
[step7] Breath of Wunshi, Pained Memory
[step8] Blood of Yopaa
[step9] I click my EP greaves and get pox of bertoxx to stick.
Thats a typical RSS grp for me, when i have the extra mana ill drop in an ice age, but i like to dot more than nuke simply because imo i do more damage. usually by this time my last dot lands(clicky pants) the mob is at 40%, and Pained memory comes back up i click that, my final resulting mana is 70-78% provided i started with 100% mana, i then click canni 5, and shoot back up to full(or 90-95%) I do not leopard, simply because its boring and i dont have the mana to keep up with a full grp and dot, i hate it when i drop below 50% mana, rarely do i EVER go below 50m, only happens when cleric goes poof(dies) and i have to heal. WHen im bored of doing the above steps ill do this:

[step1] slow
[step2]malos
[step3] click ta
[step4] leopard myself
[step5] bandolier my hammer of hours and whack the mob(i have a 125life sapp aug in my hammer of hours)
During my melee time, ill click pained memory, drop in a curse, and my pox of bertox pants, and an ice age or 2, depending on length of fight. after fight ill canni back up to full cuz all that usually brings me down to 80% mana.

dont get me wrong fellow shammies, if my grp dps is uber horrid ill Leopard anyone and anything that melees and lay off on dots and maybe throw in an ice age or 2.

Thats just me, no im not the best, sure i might be doing it wrong, but its how i play and how i enjoy playing so shizam! lol

[Dasha]

and just about every shaman has the same mana regen.. the goal here is to never be at full mana and always cast.. either its DPS mode Heal mode or CC mode were all contributing the same amount.. the thing is if you can hover at 20% then you can hover at 80%...

[Grendalkhan]

[Gonjinnx]

Depending on the group I am any ware from 20 mana to 40 mana. I like to cast alot and always forget to hit cani when the gem refreshes. Although I been going OOM alot more often lately did they brake mana regen ? hehehe