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TSS + Virulent Paralysis = Good Combination!

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Postby Veril » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:21 am

Here is a fix for Chanters in no-mezz zones:

There is already a check for this mob is immune to mezz spells, so coding changes would be minimal. Add in a Sting style nuke (0.5 sec casting time 3K damage, 12 sec recast, chromatic check), that only works against mobs who are totally immune to mezz, such as giants.

Sure it's situational, but it's situational when mezzing don't work, combined with the chromatic nuke and tash, this makes chanters into a fairly effective DPS class.
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Postby Skalor » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:52 pm

Why not just give everyone a .
Not trying to make to much fun, I do think chanters have gotten the shaft for awhile and should be more desirable in group content. To be honest I would take just about any other class in most group content over a chanter.
Give chanters an AE VP with a good resist. Would make for some interesting pulls I think.
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Postby Idracab » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:59 pm

Ahhhhhhh, that's right. ;) I don't pay much attention to classes beyond shaman and enchanters these days. *grin*

That would actually be sorta interesting - an insta cast nuke with a small (5%?) chance to mez the enchanter for 1 or 2 ticks. Now THAT would be ... intriguing. :D
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Postby Neau » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:11 am

I cant begin to explain how vital it is to have actually 'played' a chanter on a day-to-day basis to understand some of the difficulties the class has. Their spells and abilities, therotically amount to a lot. But when it comes down to it, theres so many frustrations that come with that class, its no wonder than 75% of enchanters have long since retired or moved on to more fun and interesting classes.

I feel for you Unmei, I really do.
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Postby Kianor » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:02 am

I wouldn't want to play an enchanter on raids, for sure. Many events, they're a 3rd rate wizard with nothing much to do except tash, cripple and nuke. Then, on some events, they're busy mezzers. Occasionally they have events where they just have to keep some mobs locked down while other people do the fun stuff. Sisters event in Demiplane of Blood is very similar to the Rathe Council for that - guaranteed to put enchanters off, though at least it doesn't take as long!

Monk mezzing doesn't really fit with the game balance as it's been so far. But I don't think it's a bad thing in itself - a monk can hold one mob for a while, but it uses up a fair bit of endurance. It's a handy stop gap but doesn't in itself eliminate the need for an enchanter.

The main thing seems to be that heavy mezzing isn't needed any more. Single pulling groups are the most common way to go these days. I remember back in Kunark, the order of the day was pull multiples and mezz the extra. I grouped a few times with enchanters that would pull in Sebilis, or who would complain about single pulls. In a lot of places, enchanters were required - if the enchanter left, and you couldn't get another, the group broke up. Bards could handle a couple of adds, but weren't nearly as effective as an enchanter.

That style of playing just isn't common any more, so enchanters are left with their distinguishing ability of crowd control no longer really required.

However, I have still seen enchanters invited to groups who're looking for a slower. I don't think they're completely left out - just as we weren't completely left out in GoD. They have some nice abilities (mana flare is an interesting one), and can bring more to a group than people realise... but I agree they could use a little help right now.
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