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Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Mahlah Tohsis » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:59 pm

Can anyone confirm that the third spire of ancestors applies to the group. The description says "your" which implies just to me. I don't have it, yet.

Does the second spire of ancestors apply to HoT spells? I just got rank 1 but haven't tested it, yet.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby dohrian » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:43 pm

Third spire does nothing (there were a few tests on this board)
I did not test second spire with HoT spells, but it should work.

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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby WaringMcMarrin » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:43 pm

I have had people tell me recently that third spire is useful in the right situations
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Mahlah Tohsis » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:43 pm

Don't tease us! What are the "right situations" ... do you mean when you are meleeing and feeling particularly froggy or times when it does, in fact, help the group overall.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby WaringMcMarrin » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:57 pm

[quote="Mahlah Tohsis"]Don't tease us! What are the "right situations" ... do you mean when you are meleeing and feeling particularly froggy or times when it does, in fact, help the group overall.


All I know is rogues in my guild really like it and I am not sure what combos they use with it.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Mahlah Tohsis » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:45 pm

Apparently, I forgot about Lucy:

[url]http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=16397&source=Live[/url] says third spire is groupv1
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby dohrian » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:31 pm

Parses on 3rd spire :

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6817

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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Retron » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:55 am

[quote="Mahlah Tohsis"]
Does the second spire of ancestors apply to HoT spells? I just got rank 1 but haven't tested it, yet.

Yup, it does. It works up to level 255 spells, in fact. :wink:
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby WaringMcMarrin » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:44 am

[quote="dohrian"]Parses on 3rd spire :

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6817

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Those parses only cover 1 class and not only are they very short it seems as if you are not using any special ability's with how low the dps is not to mention other then buffs you don't mention anything about what was used in the parses.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby dohrian » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:39 am

[quote="WaringMcMarrin"][quote="dohrian"]Parses on 3rd spire :

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6817

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Those parses only cover 1 class and not only are they very short it seems as if you are not using any special ability's with how low the dps is not to mention other then buffs you don't mention anything about what was used in the parses.

Maybe but if the parse shows nothing, then at best the spire does maybe something in specific cases, so I won't bother to use it.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby WaringMcMarrin » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:31 pm

[quote="dohrian"][quote="WaringMcMarrin"][quote="dohrian"]Parses on 3rd spire :

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6817

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Those parses only cover 1 class and not only are they very short it seems as if you are not using any special ability's with how low the dps is not to mention other then buffs you don't mention anything about what was used in the parses.

Maybe but if the parse shows nothing, then at best the spire does maybe something in specific cases, so I won't bother to use it.


Or maybe your parse didn't show anything since people use more then auto attack in burn situations.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby meadal » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:56 pm

What can it hurt to use it?
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Brohg » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:06 am

It's pretty likely that second spire will add more damage with a minimal commitment to dots. The hurt of using 3rd is blocking 2nd.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Sowslow » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:46 am

[quote="Brohg"]It's pretty likely that second spire will add more damage with a minimal commitment to dots. The hurt of using 3rd is blocking 2nd.

I think you mean 1st spire for dots, 2nd is for healing.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby WaringMcMarrin » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:21 pm

Personally I think better parsing is in order since I have been told by people that it does help.
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Re: Fundament of Wisdom and the Three Spires

Postby Brohg » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:32 pm

[quote="Sowslow"][quote="Brohg"]It's pretty likely that second spire will add more damage with a minimal commitment to dots. The hurt of using 3rd is blocking 2nd.

I think you mean 1st spire for dots, 2nd is for healing.


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